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El Paso & Southwestern Greenway Alternative

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This concept design shows the improvements planned as part of the El Paso & Southwestern Greenway Project. Add your comments to tell the City of Tucson what you like, what could be improved, and if there are issues in the project area that you'd like us to address.  

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We need a water-harvesting traffic circle at 10th Ave and 5th Street
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This path should be wide enough for all human-powered modes of transport to use - walkers, bicyclists, wheelchairs, scooters, skateboards, etc.
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Would it be possible to implement a circle at this intersection? Could reduce traffic, lower urban heat island, add shade, harvest rainwater, increase biodiversity... See Brad Lancaster's comments regarding native planting.
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One suggestion to build on this idea: a two-way cycle track protected by a raised concrete median! For example, I really appreciate the upgrade on Stone Ave downtown, and I often go ride my bike in that area now just because it is a great urban amenity.
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I like putting the HAWK here, but still want the separate path across the Main crossing
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I like this enhanced crosswalk marking and suggest it be incorporated no matter what
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If this option is chosen I will be running in the bike lane with my jogging stroller, so bikes will need space/possibility to swerve around me. To be clear, I prefer the separate path option but if the cycle track is what is built then the barrier needs to allow for in/out swerving
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Need to think about protection/safety for this crossing, especially from cars turning off Main since they won't be able to see cyclists/runners/pedestrians very well
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This crosswalk remains important and should be enhanced, since it can allow northbound cyclists to bike in existing lane and allow people to access 5th st
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Very important that the surface here is as smooth as possible to mitigate cyclist danger with the train tracks and bouncing for strollers going over the track, especially when jogging
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Having a side path is very important to me. I use this crossing to jog with a double stroller and currently have to run in a traffic lane to get across. If the crossing is only a bike lane then I will be running in the bike lane, thus forcing cyclists to veer into car traffic lanes
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This route should be marked as also connecting directly with El Presidio neighborhood to the south.
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A water-harvesting traffic circle is needed here
Question
Could this be turned into a bike and pedestrian only railroad crossing?
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This traffic circle should go in whichever route is chosen.
It should be designed to harvest adjoining street runoff and planted with Tucson basin native shade tree and understory plants
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The existing north-bound bike land seperated by physical barriers on Main should be kept with this plan for north-bound cyclists originating from south of St. Mary's road.
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A nice thing about this route/option is it gives students from Davis Elementary School a more direct route to the El Grupo Youth Cycling Program on 9th Ave and 5th St
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Of the three options, this would be my second choice.
It feels safer than the second option with the flimsy plastic vertical markers between bikes and cars on Main Ave.
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Tucson basin native shade tree planting within rain and stormwater-harvesting basins along this path should be part of this design.

Desert ironwood, velvet mesquite, and blue palo verde trees are good options.
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Tucson basin native shade tree planting within rain and stormwater-harvesting basins along this path should be part of this design.

Desert ironwood, velvet mesquite, and blue palo verde trees are good options.
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Tucson basin native shade tree planting within rain and stormwater-harvesting basins along this path should be part of this design.

Desert ironwood, velvet mesquite, and blue palo verde trees are good options.
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Tucson basin native shade tree planting within rain and stormwater-harvesting basins along this path should be part of this design.

Desert ironwood, velvet mesquite, and blue palo verde trees are good options.
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I have little faith in the effectiveness of the plastic vertical markers seperating the bike path from cars. A more substantial barrier is needed.
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Of the three options. I prefer this one.
It appears to be substantially safer than the second option on Main as it is more clearly physically seperated from car traffic.
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Make sure this path maintains or enhances the water-harvesting berm that collects rain and stormwater to freely irrigate the trees on its east side. This earthen path and water-harvesting berm were installed in the past by myself, neighborhood volunteers, and Gary Wittwere - landscape architect with the City of Tucson transportation department (now retired).
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I prefer the two-way cycle track or the side path, in that order. I imagine the majority of people using this connection will be coming from the north or east and the 5th street option seems less convenient for that case. Additionally, it allows for the option to potentially extend the path further up and down Main in the future.
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put the 2 way track on the east side and a one way bike path on the west side
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a bridge to walk or bike over this and over 6th/st marys would feel much safer and be more reasonable for biking/walking.
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turning across traffic immediately after the train tracks feels pretty unsafe, and not even really possible if there is a line up of cars waiting for the train on both sides. If there is a two way bike path, put it on the east side of the street, so bikes can just turn east from the path rather than crossing 4 lanes of traffic right after the tracks.
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This choice feels dangerous and I don't like it.
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I prefer the two-way cycletrack or the separated path.
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I prefer the two-way cycletrack or the separated path.
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The path probably makes the most sense because both bikers and walkers cans utilize it.
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I like the HAWKL signal here, but prefer both University options. the vast majority of cyclists and pedestrians are already using University so it makes more sense to use that intersection as the main point. The HAWK would allow students to cross, but I think they would like just cross at university and walk down to the school from there.
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A bike boulevard along 5th st is a good idea, but it does not serve the majority of children and families who live north of this location and commute to Davis School via University Blvd. For this reason, the other alternatives (path and track along Main Ave) are preferred.
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The sidepath or cycle track are much preferred to the 5th st option. Several families use University Boulevard and the new bike crossing to get to school, and a path or track make this route safer and more comfortable. Plus, many other cyclists use University Blvd, so these improvements would be used by many other cyclists.
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The sidepath or cycle track are much preferred to the 5th st option. Several families use University Boulevard and the new bike crossing to get to school, and a path or track make this route safer and more comfortable. Plus, many other cyclists use University Blvd, so these improvements would be used by many other cyclists.
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I fully support a HAWK crossing here and the development of the 5th St bike boulevard. This intersection at Granada is directly part of the school zone, so any opportunity for safer paths to and from school should be taken.

Although there is a crossing just north of here, this area is heavily traveled enough that commuter/leisure/school/pedestrian traffic will be able to use this AND the university crossing for different destinations, especially with the Maclovio Barraza Aviation Bike Path being completed.

I am aware of multiple cycling groups that would inevitably travel up 5th st regardless of the infrastructure in place on both 5th and University, so making it safer benefits where road users are already demand.

Additionally, it contributes to a future of extending the 5th St bike boulevard, which begins at Euclid and the U of A campus and currently ends at 6th Ave. With the New 6th Ave bike lane project under way, extending the 5th St bike blvd to Stone (and across?) allows for another great and safe path for East/West commuters and school travellers (Tucson high/Roskruge) to have easier access to the West without needing to interact with riding along street car tracks or busy streets.
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This Path option feels safer than a 2 way cycle lane as it moves bicycles off of the road where vehicular traffic can be quite fast.

Unfortunately this plan moves the crossing into a slight blind spot for southbound drivers making a right turn. A form of traffic calming like a small median at a 'comment marker' location or slight impedance may prevent a fast driver from barreling into crossing road users when making the right turn.

This also allows for 2 lanes of vehicular traffic to continue southbound, where the 2 way bike lane condenses it to one.
Question
Is there ever going to be the ability to enter Barrio Anita via a Ped/Bike crossing here? It appears that the plans divert around this intersection, and I am curious why there is painted infrastructure to a dead end.
Suggestion
Having this be a bike boulevard is a great way for students and families of Davis Elementary to access the Aviation Bikepath without needing to route north and for commuters heading in the opposite direction to access the future El Paso Greenway connection.